Another good post circulating today - "Unionbusting Confidential" by Art Levine, who goes undercover to attend a seminar that teaches the art of union-busting.
Instead, we could continue to undermine the union by rejecting all of its demands during negotiations. (In fact, in about a third of the cases after a union victory, employers don’t even agree to a contract.) The trick was in how to word refusals. First, with a shout, Stief demonstrated what not to say in response to a demand for increased wages: “I’m not listening to no stinkin’ wage increases!” He resumed his normal voice: “Does that sound like good faith? No.” Then Stieff showed us the proper alternative: “I’m not inclined to agree to that proposal at this time.” He observed. “Does that sound like good faith? Yes, but I’m saying the same thing I did before.” The lesson? “You can say no to anything.”
I don't understand why the City offers ANY increase above inflation: and there's no friggin' way inflation is going to be 18+% over 5 years. And can someone explain to me what CUPE would have to do (besides dumping nails on playing fields) before one could confidently describe it as 'bad faith'? If you strip the meaning of 'bad faith bargaining' to simply mean the city won't give us what we want, I respectfully submit that you're robbing the phrase of any meaning.
Our city government is in competition, not simply with the private sector for good, qualified people, but with other cities around the country and the world to attract workers here in the first place. Provision of high-quality services is one of the ways cities compete, as the Economist magazine noted when it bestowed our city the status of the world's most liveable.
The local unemployment rate is also at record lows. We are relaxing rules so that foreign workers can come to BC. Competition for talent is heavy, and no matter how much you and it may wish the opposite, the civic government is not immune to market forces in competing for quality staff.
Assuming, of course, that the commenter believes in the importance of the market.
besides dumping nails on playing fields
This is libel.
If you strip the meaning of 'bad faith bargaining' to simply mean the city won't give us what we want, I respectfully submit that you're robbing the phrase of any meaning.
Perhaps the commenter could elaborate whether they are privy to the details of negotiations? It would be the only way they could make this statement with any degree of certainty.
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Another good post circulating today - "Unionbusting Confidential" by Art Levine, who goes undercover to attend a seminar that teaches the art of union-busting.
Instead, we could continue to undermine the union by rejecting all of its demands during negotiations. (In fact, in about a third of the cases after a union victory, employers don’t even agree to a contract.) The trick was in how to word refusals. First, with a shout, Stief demonstrated what not to say in response to a demand for increased wages: “I’m not listening to no stinkin’ wage increases!” He resumed his normal voice: “Does that sound like good faith? No.” Then Stieff showed us the proper alternative: “I’m not inclined to agree to that proposal at this time.” He observed. “Does that sound like good faith? Yes, but I’m saying the same thing I did before.” The lesson? “You can say no to anything.”
Remind you of anything? Maybe this?
"They're moving in the wrong direction, and we're not going to be able to resolve this," said Dobrovolny.
I don't understand why the City offers ANY increase above inflation: and there's no friggin' way inflation is going to be 18+% over 5 years. And can someone explain to me what CUPE would have to do (besides dumping nails on playing fields) before one could confidently describe it as 'bad faith'? If you strip the meaning of 'bad faith bargaining' to simply mean the city won't give us what we want, I respectfully submit that you're robbing the phrase of any meaning.
I don't understand why the City offers ANY increase above inflation
The inflation rate alone is not an adequate measure for wage increases. A more accurate method would be to use the Cost of Living Index. And by this measure Vancouver is second only to Toronto in expense to live.
Our city government is in competition, not simply with the private sector for good, qualified people, but with other cities around the country and the world to attract workers here in the first place. Provision of high-quality services is one of the ways cities compete, as the Economist magazine noted when it bestowed our city the status of the world's most liveable.
The local unemployment rate is also at record lows. We are relaxing rules so that foreign workers can come to BC. Competition for talent is heavy, and no matter how much you and it may wish the opposite, the civic government is not immune to market forces in competing for quality staff.
Assuming, of course, that the commenter believes in the importance of the market.
besides dumping nails on playing fields
This is libel.
If you strip the meaning of 'bad faith bargaining' to simply mean the city won't give us what we want, I respectfully submit that you're robbing the phrase of any meaning.
Perhaps the commenter could elaborate whether they are privy to the details of negotiations? It would be the only way they could make this statement with any degree of certainty.
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