tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6768848329482311943.post8532281055947274493..comments2023-06-20T03:00:16.769-07:00Comments on Vancouver On Strike: Post Strike Garbage ServicesBack to workhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08891996192498006619noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6768848329482311943.post-53552934280060001262007-09-26T23:04:00.000-07:002007-09-26T23:04:00.000-07:00Hi Blackbird, thanks for checking that out, I just...Hi Blackbird, thanks for checking that out, I just threw that in there because it seemed logical, although I do agree with you 100 per cent that the City has not bargained in good faith but it seemed to me that this was evident in past resolutions and is unfair. But I appreciate you checking it out further and will continue to pursue other avenues.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6768848329482311943.post-67896356548117972822007-09-26T22:10:00.000-07:002007-09-26T22:10:00.000-07:00Hello Anon @ 4:10 PM,I was just told, tonight, by ...Hello Anon @ 4:10 PM,<BR/><BR/>I was just told, tonight, by one of the members of the union's bargaining committee that what you state is true. Both sides want protection from retaliation so that will be a part of the deal. There are other means of pursuing this which I am not at liberty to discuss here.<BR/><BR/>Anon @ 7:54 PM,<BR/><BR/>Consider this example of the City/GVRD's bad faith bargaining tactics in its negotiation with local 391. Shortly after the library employees went out on strike after having received no offers from the City, their bargaining team presented the City with a proposal. The City failed to sit at the table and bargain for 28 days! That's four weeks, two lost paycheques, because the City would not sit face to face with 391's bargaining committee and talk.<BR/><BR/>Consider the first media blackout involving local 15. It lasted 5 days. The union, aware the City was using Boulwareism as a guiding strategy, kept a stopwatch on the amount of time City negotiators sat in the chairs across the table from the Union, who were available for bargaining the entire five days. Total time? 4 hours, 22 minutes.<BR/><BR/>In the meantime, managers' bank accounts grow and grow and grow with overtime.<BR/><BR/>These are just two of many examples of the City/GVRD's failure to bargain in good faith that may be used as evidence in court.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6768848329482311943.post-65253626838200147412007-09-25T19:54:00.000-07:002007-09-25T19:54:00.000-07:00CUPE hasn't had its rights to collectively bargain...CUPE hasn't had its rights to collectively bargain impinged upon in any way. The fact that the city refuses to cave in to CUPE demands is not necessarily an act of bad faith. As PB has explained CUPE could have called for a mediator earlier in the process but chose not to because of strategic reasons. The strike will end when BOTH sides find an agreement with language that they can both live with.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6768848329482311943.post-83753340292515629642007-09-25T16:10:00.000-07:002007-09-25T16:10:00.000-07:00Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't both sides (whe...Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't both sides (when they settle) usually include some kind of clause that neither side can initiate some kind of retaliatory measure (ie. legal action) after the dust has settled? Is this not usually the case, thus negating any chance to pursue this route?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6768848329482311943.post-15761278023342004112007-09-25T15:44:00.000-07:002007-09-25T15:44:00.000-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6768848329482311943.post-78409492717362709582007-09-25T15:37:00.000-07:002007-09-25T15:37:00.000-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com