tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6768848329482311943.post1471923436378814895..comments2023-06-20T03:00:16.769-07:00Comments on Vancouver On Strike: Peter Ladner - Mischief MakerBack to workhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08891996192498006619noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6768848329482311943.post-50788413759959839922007-09-11T14:00:00.000-07:002007-09-11T14:00:00.000-07:00It should be noted that the "official" BC inflatio...It should be noted that the "official" BC inflation rate is skewed because cost of living in Vancouver increases at a much faster rate than elsewhere in the province due to skyrocketing land values.<BR/><BR/>Additionally, the wage settlement is not really at issue. The real issues, speaking with respect to local 391, are pay equity, job security, part-time/auxiliary rights, and benefits.QBerthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11681103349637434438noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6768848329482311943.post-64489847146094866562007-09-11T09:05:00.000-07:002007-09-11T09:05:00.000-07:00And another thing - I don't have any problem with ...And another thing - I don't have any problem with people getting increases above the rate of inflation. In fact, the higher increase you can get, the better for you. Good luck.<BR/><BR/>What I do have a problem with is people getting such large increases, at the same time as they get "jobs-for-life". In any sustainable society, if you want higher rewards, you have to take higher risks.<BR/><BR/> Higher pay increases - accept that you may lose your job. Absolute job security - accept lower wages.<BR/><BR/>It's completely inappropriate for public sector workers, who enjoy a monopoly on the provision of essential services to hold everyone to ransom for wage increases, job benefits and guarantees that are completely out of line with what's available in the private sector. If you all were being paid lousy wages with lousy working conditions, you might have a point. But you already have better conditions than anyone in the private sector.<BR/>We can have this conversation in 5 years time again, and you will see that NO private sector workers will have enjoyed 18+% increases with no job losses.<BR/><BR/>Maybe it's time to stop whining about how hard life is for you at your city job, and try working in the private sector. Maybe you'll start getting an appreciation for what life is like in the real world.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6768848329482311943.post-59787152506363180612007-09-11T08:58:00.000-07:002007-09-11T08:58:00.000-07:00Blackbird,Climb down off your high horse. The only...Blackbird,<BR/><BR/>Climb down off your high horse. The only point to be made about public sector workers getting increases above the rate of inflation is that it will cost everyone tax increases above the rate of inflation.<BR/><BR/>That's a trade-off for the people paying the taxes to decide on, don't you think?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6768848329482311943.post-68646711156928716092007-09-11T08:42:00.000-07:002007-09-11T08:42:00.000-07:00Exactly, blackbird.I'll repeat a point I posted ea...Exactly, blackbird.<BR/><BR/>I'll repeat a point I posted earlier: Cupe391 took 2 3-year contracts of 0,0,1% in the 90's (yes even when the NPA had power). Now times are good...this city is contiually rated at the top of international surveys...and civic workers helped achieved that.<BR/><BR/>Perhaps Mr. Ladner could come out from behind the shield of email and defend his editorial on this forum?<BR/><BR/>He should have faith that his argument and his facts will stand scrutiny.spartikushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15639539383294575736noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6768848329482311943.post-38945147206201451462007-09-10T21:52:00.000-07:002007-09-10T21:52:00.000-07:00Why is it assumed that workers' wage increases mus...Why is it assumed that workers' wage increases must be on a par with the rate of inflation? If the society is prosperous, why should the workers not share in that prosperity?<BR/><BR/>The assumption is insulting.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6768848329482311943.post-77474784111090727962007-09-10T19:29:00.000-07:002007-09-10T19:29:00.000-07:00It would help me believe the Councillor's point if...It would help me believe the Councillor's point if he were even slightly correct in some of the other facts he states in that opinion piece:<BR/><BR/>- Like all but 4 CUPE 15 workers being on a compressed work week/9 day fortnight schedule<BR/><BR/>- 51 paid days off per year (including 18 days worked for and all the statutory holidays)<BR/><BR/>- insinuating that telecommuting options are readily available and supported throughout the city<BR/><BR/>And all of these have been correctly dealt with already through various news articles and new releasesAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6768848329482311943.post-35793464290951619362007-09-10T18:08:00.000-07:002007-09-10T18:08:00.000-07:00I have no doubt that the contract will cost. The w...I have no doubt that the contract will cost. The wage increases over the next 5 years are as follows.<BR/><BR/>2007 3%<BR/>2008 3%<BR/>2009 3.5%<BR/>2010 4%<BR/>2011 4%<BR/><BR/>Compounded over 5 years this is 18.76%. <BR/><BR/>What I would like to know is how the cost / taxpayer ( residential & business ) is reached.<BR/><BR/>After Mr. Ladner's misquote regarding using the Olympics as leverage for a signing bonus I'm just seeking quantifiable supports.Back to workhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08891996192498006619noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6768848329482311943.post-87402238762873920442007-09-10T18:00:00.000-07:002007-09-10T18:00:00.000-07:00Well, not to put words in Mr Ladner's mouth, but S...Well, not to put words in Mr Ladner's mouth, but StatsCan says the BC inflation rate is (http://www40.statcan.ca/l01/cst01/econ09k.htm)<BR/><BR/>2006 - 1.7%<BR/><BR/>2005 - 2.0%<BR/><BR/>2004 - 2.0%<BR/><BR/>2003 - 2.2%<BR/><BR/>2002 - 2.4%<BR/><BR/>If you're willing to believe those numbers, then 18% (compounded) over 5 years is certainly considerably above the rate of inflation. And most workers will be getting their annual pay grade increase on top of that, so it's very far above inflation.<BR/><BR/>Good luck to you all for getting it, but you have to realize it's going to cost the people who live in Vancouver.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com